Or should he be removed as Lord?
At blackbook, we let you be the judge!
Nashtok replies to you, 'btw' Nashtok replies to you, 'i've heard rumors, and it sounds like the fact of your "freezing" may have been misunderstood and exaggerated' Nashtok replies to you, 'people jump to conclusions' Nashtok replies to you, 'sigh' Nashtok replies to you, 'btw, i appreciate calm discussion with you, even when we disagree' You reply to Nashtok 'you froze me and my alts' Nashtok replies to you, 'people that just say 'you stupid $@#$@#%@' are hard to deal with' You reply to Nashtok 'and help me partly responsible for alkara' Nashtok replies to you, 'no i didn't' You reply to Nashtok 'and still now for promoting it' You reply to Nashtok 'yes you did' You reply to Nashtok 'please do not lie to me' Nashtok replies to you, 'which alts?' You reply to Nashtok 'Nyv, Nyvly, Nyvla' Nashtok replies to you, 'nyv and nyvly' You reply to Nashtok 'and Nyvly' Nashtok replies to you, 'nyvla??' You reply to Nashtok 'and Nyvla' Nashtok replies to you, 'oh' You reply to Nashtok 'yes were you drunk' You reply to Nashtok 'do you not remember' Nashtok replies to you, 'so nyvla is frozen' You reply to Nashtok 'wtf' Nashtok replies to you, 'i think it was only because you asked' You reply to Nashtok 'yeah you froze every one of my alts' You reply to Nashtok 'so i didnt even log in the others' Nashtok replies to you, 'definitely not every one' You reply to Nashtok 'are you kidding me? ' You reply to Nashtok 'you froze every alt i was logging on' You reply to Nashtok 'i stopped logging them on' Nashtok replies to you, 'but that's not the point' You reply to Nashtok 'um, yes it is' Nashtok replies to you, 'no, you specifically asked if i was going to freeze your other chars' Nashtok replies to you, 'as for holding you responsible' You reply to Nashtok '...' Nashtok replies to you, 'we're all responsible for our own actions' Nashtok replies to you, 'so yes, of course you are responsible for promoting something' You reply to Nashtok 'dude, are you responsible for your own shit?' You reply to Nashtok 'you're responsible for freezing my alts?' You reply to Nashtok 'and you dont even want to apologize for your rudeness?' Nashtok replies to you, 'yes' Nashtok replies to you, 'i am responsible for that' Nashtok replies to you, 'rudeness, hrm?' Nashtok replies to you, 'well' Nashtok replies to you, 'i didn't intend to be rude' You reply to Nashtok 'you freeze my alts because you dont like that blackbook promotes information? you bring up copyright?' You reply to Nashtok 'are you kidding me?' Nashtok replies to you, 'i just intended to get your attention since you seemed to be afk most of the time when i wanted to speak to you' Nashtok replies to you, 'no, that's incorrect' You reply to Nashtok 'during the week i have to goto bed early to be up at 515' Nashtok replies to you, 'i did not freeze your alts because of anything i don't like or because of anything on blackbook' You reply to Nashtok 'nashtok you jest' Nashtok replies to you, 'i froze you pending having a conversation about an issue' You reply to Nashtok 'wtf? pending a conversation?' You reply to Nashtok 'do you hear yourself?' You reply to Nashtok 'let me pull up the damn transcript, AGAIN' You reply to Nashtok 'to refresh your fucking mind' Nashtok replies to you, 'what is difficult about that?' Nashtok replies to you, 'i told you i wanted to talk to you about it more' Nashtok replies to you, 'i have logs' You reply to Nashtok 'in fact, i'll put the shit on blackbook' Nashtok replies to you, 'well' You reply to Nashtok 'you're so sick' Nashtok replies to you, 'look' You reply to Nashtok 'you're so damn sick' Nashtok replies to you, 'what is your intention here?' Nashtok replies to you, 'do you want to stir up drama and strife?' Nashtok replies to you, 'or do you want the good of the mud?' You reply to Nashtok 'you cant even admit, as a lord, that maybe you fucked up?' You reply to Nashtok 'do you ever fuck up?' You reply to Nashtok 'i mean, that is a serious question' Nashtok replies to you, 'please calm down nyvly' Nashtok replies to you, 'we were having a calm discussion here' You reply to Nashtok 'its like the lords who make major changes' Nashtok replies to you, 'what happened?' You reply to Nashtok 'you just lied to me about the reason you froze my alts' Nashtok replies to you, 'no, i did not' Nashtok replies to you, 'that's a false accusation' Nashtok replies to you, 'i think i would know the reason' Nashtok replies to you, 'freezing is a temporary thing' Nashtok replies to you, 'it says 'nothing is decided and we need to talk about this'' Nashtok replies to you, 'which was exactly the case' Nashtok replies to you, 'this is what i meant about misunderstanding' Nashtok replies to you, 'and apparently you misunderstood' Nashtok replies to you, 'which could well mean i didn't communicate it clearly enough' You reply to Nashtok 'wtf' You reply to Nashtok 'it would be helpful if you admitted that night you were drinking' Nashtok replies to you, 'well, more accusations aren't going to be helpful' You reply to Nashtok '[Gossip] Nyvla: so nashtok you're gonna freeze all my chars? [Gossip] Sec: why were your chars frozen nyv [Gossip] Nyvla: nyvly now nyv?' You reply to Nashtok '[Gossip] Nashtok: nod nyvla [Gossip] Sec: why are you freezing her chars [Gossip] Nashtok: we can talk about unfreezing them later [Gossip] Nashtok: violation of ethics' You reply to Nashtok '[Gossip] Sec: with aoc blackbook? [Gossip] Nashtok: copyright violation also, if you care about that' Nashtok replies to you, 'yeah' Nashtok replies to you, 'that wasn't really optimal' Nashtok replies to you, 'that gossip message' Nashtok replies to you, 'why say that?' You reply to Nashtok 'you totally ruined my mudding experience' Nashtok replies to you, 'nah, i didn't' You reply to Nashtok 'have you ever thought, that maybe, just maybe' You reply to Nashtok 'i have a limited amount of time to play' You reply to Nashtok 'which is why i'm afk a lot' Nashtok replies to you, 'freezing for a day until we can talk doesn't ruin anything' You reply to Nashtok 'you're sick' You reply to Nashtok 'you're so sick' Nashtok replies to you, 'your mudding experience is fine' You reply to Nashtok 'why am i still playing?' Nashtok replies to you, 'i don't know, nyvly, you tell me' Nashtok replies to you, 'i don't know, nyvly, you tell me' You reply to Nashtok 'like as a lord, aren't you at all concerned when a long time player is troubled by your actions' You reply to Nashtok 'you want to act like Kirha or something' Nashtok replies to you, 'why did the calm discussion go out?' Nashtok replies to you, 'of course i'm concerned' You reply to Nashtok 'no you're not, you cant even admit that maybe just maybe you were a rude prick lord' Nashtok replies to you, 'aren't you concerned when a lord is troubled by your actions?' You reply to Nashtok 'OK well i'm done being trolled' Nashtok replies to you, 'well' Nashtok replies to you, 'that type of commentary is not helpful' You reply to Nashtok 'why dont you freeze me again?' Nashtok replies to you, 'it just shows you want to blow things out of proportions' You reply to Nashtok 'no what, it just shows i want to shed some light on the situation, and your pride gets in the way of admitting you may be wrong, just once' Nashtok replies to you, 'you know as well as i do' Nashtok replies to you, 'we started talking' Nashtok replies to you, 'and you said it was late and didn't want to continue right then' Nashtok replies to you, 'i agreed and felt the same way' Nashtok replies to you, 'so we postponed it until later' You reply to Nashtok 'you do realize, that practically everyone, including both imms and mortals think you went overboard' You reply to Nashtok 'so you froze me?' You reply to Nashtok 'its just ridiculous ' Nashtok replies to you, 'you're exaggerating' You reply to Nashtok 'i'm not' You reply to Nashtok 'nashtok i promise i'm not' You reply to Nashtok 'i hate to crash your ego anymore' Nashtok replies to you, 'all you had to do was just show up and continue the conversation to get unfrozen' You reply to Nashtok 'oh my, you are trying to revise history?' You reply to Nashtok 'of what "could have happened"?' Nashtok replies to you, 'no' Nashtok replies to you, 'i'm reminding you of history, i guess' You reply to Nashtok 'nashtok i've never been frozen of such shit' You reply to Nashtok 'i've never been frozen' You reply to Nashtok 'you would have done better to apologize' You reply to Nashtok 'but you can't' Nashtok replies to you, 'it's not as bad as you're making out, to be frozen' You reply to Nashtok 'so you had to have lars apologize for your sorry ass' You reply to Nashtok 'its just sick' You reply to Nashtok 'like, and you were the lord doing the actions' You reply to Nashtok 'it would have been cooler had you apologized, said yeah i had a few too many drinks that night' You reply to Nashtok 'i took it personal, blah blah blah' You reply to Nashtok 'but NO' Nashtok replies to you, 'look' Nashtok replies to you, 'it's not personal at all' You reply to Nashtok 'you cant even keep up with how many alts of mine you froze' You reply to Nashtok 'how drunk were you dude?' Nashtok replies to you, 'i'm running a game' Nashtok replies to you, 'you're doing something detrimental to the game' Nashtok replies to you, 'that's not personal' Nashtok replies to you, 'it's a game issue' You reply to Nashtok 'sick. just sick.' You reply to Nashtok 'the blackbook is fucking staying' You reply to Nashtok 'and one day, i'll publish more of my personal files' You reply to Nashtok 'that include all kind of stuff' Nashtok replies to you, 'it would actually be legitimate to ban you from the game' Nashtok replies to you, 'that's not to say it's what i would do' Nashtok replies to you, 'but technically it would be a legitimate option' You reply to Nashtok 'you're not actually thinking' You reply to Nashtok 'of saying' You reply to Nashtok 'that you think, i should be banned from the game now?' You reply to Nashtok 'are you serious?' Nashtok replies to you, 'oh i would prefer that you're not' Nashtok replies to you, 'but think about it this way' Nashtok replies to you, 'well' Nashtok replies to you, 'think about it in a non-personal way' Nashtok replies to you, 'generically' Nashtok replies to you, 'not about you and blackbook' You reply to Nashtok 'nashtok, you should just go ahead and do what you're gonna do' Nashtok replies to you, 'hypothetically, something is harming the game from the outside' Nashtok replies to you, 'game admin can't control what gets published outside' You reply to Nashtok 'oh i'm done talking about blackbook, its staying and growing' Nashtok replies to you, 'game admin can only control who plays the game' You reply to Nashtok 'you have no diplomacy' You reply to Nashtok 'this is why you should be truly limited to coding' You reply to Nashtok 'and staying the fuck out of mortal affairs' Nashtok replies to you, 'well' Nashtok replies to you, 'you may end having to stay off the game' Nashtok replies to you, 'your attitude has a lot to do with it' Nashtok replies to you, 'if you can't go back to decency' You reply to Nashtok 'i'm being bullied by a lord' Nashtok replies to you, 'false statement' You reply to Nashtok 'being threatened to be banned' Nashtok replies to you, 'again, false' You reply to Nashtok 'sigh' Nashtok replies to you, 'you're exaggerating' Nashtok replies to you, 'don't stir up strife nyvly' You reply to Nashtok 'i'm not' You reply to Nashtok 'you are' Nashtok replies to you, 'no, i'm not' Nashtok replies to you, 'it's better to work things out peacefully' You reply to Nashtok 'you lie' Nashtok replies to you, 'nyvly' Nashtok replies to you, ''you lie' is stirring up strife' Nashtok replies to you, 'you have completely changed your mode of conversation' Nashtok replies to you, 'you were calm and fairly rational before' You reply to Nashtok 'you are a revisionist' Nashtok replies to you, 'i didn't intend to offend you personally' Nashtok replies to you, 'i am not' You reply to Nashtok 'everyone knows what you've done' You reply to Nashtok 'you're a rude prick lord' You reply to Nashtok 'you should be limited to coding' You reply to Nashtok 'what about mortal input nashtok?' Nashtok replies to you, 'you have nothing to say about that' Nashtok replies to you, 'it's not up to you' You reply to Nashtok 'what if 90+% of mortal players want you limited to coding?' You reply to Nashtok 'what about mortal input nashtok?' You reply to Nashtok 'your pride gets in the way' Nashtok replies to you, 'how much are they going to pay me to code?' You reply to Nashtok 'i'll pay you' You reply to Nashtok 'how much do you want?' You reply to Nashtok 'thats a serious question' Nashtok replies to you, 'seriously?' Nashtok replies to you, 'heh' You reply to Nashtok 'i code blackbook for free' You reply to Nashtok 'wtf do you charge' You reply to Nashtok 'be honest?' Nashtok replies to you, 'i code aoc for free' You reply to Nashtok 'well there you have it' Nashtok replies to you, 'but eh' You reply to Nashtok 'so be limited to coding' You reply to Nashtok 'let others be diplomatic ' Nashtok replies to you, 'sure would be nice to quit my job and just code aoc, eh!' You reply to Nashtok 'i have to go soon' Nashtok replies to you, 'well' You reply to Nashtok 'are you going to freeze or ban me tonight?' You reply to Nashtok 'or will that come another day?' Nashtok replies to you, 'it's none of your affair what lords do beyond coding' Nashtok replies to you, 'this mud is more than code' You reply to Nashtok 'haha' Nashtok replies to you, 'code is very important, but i have to do other things at times' You reply to Nashtok 'you drink more than coolaid i see' Nashtok replies to you, 'players don't get to say 'don't enforce the policy against us'' You reply to Nashtok 'you may need some help, if on one hand you want whats best for the game, but you want to do it without truly considering players input' You reply to Nashtok 'you are power hungry and cannot admit it' You reply to Nashtok 'a dictator really' Nashtok replies to you, 'making more accusations isn't really helpful' Nashtok replies to you, 'nor are you being sincere' Nashtok replies to you, 'you know i have always considered player input' Nashtok replies to you, 'and actively encouraged it' You reply to Nashtok 'disagree' Nashtok replies to you, 'then you don't watch public channels and boards' You reply to Nashtok 'nashtok, what if a majority of mortal players said otherwise?' You reply to Nashtok 'would you then admit that maybe you're wrong?' You reply to Nashtok 'that you dont really consider input?' Nashtok replies to you, 'i discuss game features with players and there are often game changes that result' Nashtok replies to you, 'do you realize what you're asking?' Nashtok replies to you, 'no number of people can change reality' You reply to Nashtok 'haha' Nashtok replies to you, 'the fact is what it is' Nashtok replies to you, 'i actively seek out discussions with people about the game' You reply to Nashtok 'the facts AS YOU SEE THEm' Nashtok replies to you, 'so' You reply to Nashtok 'nashtok, does it trouble you that a majority of mortals disagree with you on these matters?' Nashtok replies to you, 'it's not really possible for 'a majority of players' to say otherwise' You reply to Nashtok 'sure it is' You reply to Nashtok 'absolutely it' Nashtok replies to you, 'because if a player feels that way, all he has to do is to start talking with me' You reply to Nashtok 'we've tried' Nashtok replies to you, 'and i'll consider his ideas' You reply to Nashtok 'you result to freezing until you're ready to unfreeze' Nashtok replies to you, 'eh?' Nashtok replies to you, 'no' Nashtok replies to you, 'you were frozen temporarily about something i approached you to discuss' You reply to Nashtok 'what a joke' Nashtok replies to you, 'that doesn't pertain to the general topic of considering player opinions' Nashtok replies to you, 'you can come to me at any time to discuss game issues' You reply to Nashtok 'you cannot admit that you handled it poorly' Nashtok replies to you, 'you're unwilling to consider anyone's perspective but your own' You reply to Nashtok 'oh no, i've considered like, over 20 mortals?' You reply to Nashtok 'i've called a few on the phone' You reply to Nashtok 'i've emailed others' Nashtok replies to you, 'you've given them misleading information' You reply to Nashtok 'i've talked to those that log actively' You reply to Nashtok 'nah, just what was said' You reply to Nashtok 'and you know what nashtok' You reply to Nashtok 'you're a prick' Nashtok replies to you, 'you didn't tell them nashtok froze you just to get your attention so you could talk' You reply to Nashtok 'why do you do lie' You reply to Nashtok 'i now feel a little sorry for you' You reply to Nashtok 'but alas, no winners tonight' Nashtok replies to you, 'again, the accusations are not helpful' Nashtok replies to you, 'you want to turn discussions into personal issues' Nashtok replies to you, 'that's not helpful either' You reply to Nashtok 'nashtok unfortunately i now must share the facts with those who havent seen' You reply to Nashtok 'you cannot admit you screwed up' You reply to Nashtok 'you cannot admit you went overboard' Nashtok replies to you, 'what is your intention in being here?' Nashtok replies to you, 'just to stir up strife?' You reply to Nashtok 'you cannot admit you ruined mine, and others mudding experience, if not on this occasion, on ones in the past' You reply to Nashtok 'quite contrary, to play the mud socially and enjoy it' You reply to Nashtok 'not be frozen by drunken lords' Nashtok replies to you, 'it would be a lie to say that i did ruin anyone's mudding experience' Nashtok replies to you, 'look at this' You reply to Nashtok 'you ruined mine' Nashtok replies to you, 'You say 'i wanted to talk to you'' You reply to Nashtok 'and secs' Nashtok replies to you, 'You say 'but you seem to be always afk'' Nashtok replies to you, 'that was my explanation of your temporary freezing' You reply to Nashtok 'wtf ever' Nashtok replies to you, 'anything else you say is a lie' Nashtok replies to you, 'i did not ruin sec's mudding experience' Nashtok replies to you, 'sec ruined his own' You reply to Nashtok 'nashtok, do you know you're so sad' You reply to Nashtok 'just admit you screwed up and we can begin the healing process?' Nashtok replies to you, 'as a long term player, you know anyone who says things like he said on public channels to an admin must be deleted' You reply to Nashtok 'i think you're out of control' Nashtok replies to you, 'healing process?' Nashtok replies to you, 'you are full of accusations now' Nashtok replies to you, 'non-stop' Nashtok replies to you, 'where is there room for a healing process?' You reply to Nashtok 'do you ever fuck up?' You reply to Nashtok 'well its been a minute and you haven't answered that question' Nashtok replies to you, 'and at the end of that earlier discussion, you'd been saying you were tired and had to go to bed' Nashtok replies to you, 'remember?' Nashtok replies to you, 'and i said You say 'we can continue discussing this later'' You reply to Nashtok 'nashtok, again, do you ever fuck up?' Nashtok replies to you, 'instead of leaving, you login an alt and ask on gossip if your alts are to be frozen' You reply to Nashtok 'nashtok, again, do you ever fuck up?' Nashtok replies to you, 'sec let himself get stirred up about that' You reply to Nashtok 'you cant even admit you're the one who initially stirred up stuff by your freezing' You reply to Nashtok 'nashtok, again, do you ever fuck up?' You reply to Nashtok 'please just admit it' You reply to Nashtok 'i know that its hard' Nashtok replies to you, 'i explained the freezing at the time' You reply to Nashtok 'nashtok, again, do you ever fuck up?' Nashtok replies to you, 'it was about finding a time when we could time' Nashtok replies to you, 'talk' You reply to Nashtok 'are you ignoring my question?' Nashtok replies to you, 'an explanation at the time should avoid stirring up stuff?' You reply to Nashtok 'nashtok, again, do you ever fuck up?' Nashtok replies to you, 'why did you say that on gossip?' Nashtok replies to you, 'you know sec wouldn't have had his problem if you'd stayed quiet until we could talk more?' Nashtok replies to you, 'calm and careful action helps' Nashtok replies to you, 'not jumping to conclusions' You reply to Nashtok 'you havent answered my question' Nashtok replies to you, 'it's not a sincere question, nyvly' You reply to Nashtok 'nashtok, do you ever fuck up?' Nashtok replies to you, 'you know everyone makes mistakes' You reply to Nashtok 'have a good night' Nashtok replies to you, 'nyvly' Nashtok replies to you, 'there could be peace' Nashtok replies to you, 'as far as i'm concerned' Nashtok replies to you, 'if strife is stirred up, it's not by me' You reply to Nashtok 'just know as i go' You reply to Nashtok 'that after this conversation' You reply to Nashtok 'i now know you're a a prick even more' Nashtok replies to you, 'your opinion on that really doesn't mean anything' You reply to Nashtok 'nashtok why the crap cannot you admit that you made mistake?' You reply to Nashtok 'you're sick' Nashtok replies to you, 'you're not really qualified to form a legitimate opinion' You reply to Nashtok 'you're right i'm not. but everyone else sure as hell is' You reply to Nashtok 'pure arrogance and pride you have' You reply to Nashtok 'goodnight' Nashtok replies to you, 'what you're doing now qualifies as harassment' Nashtok replies to you, 'what are you going to do about your pride?' Nashtok replies to you, 'take care nyvly' Nashtok replies to you, 'i wish you well despite all that animosity from you' Nashtok replies to you, 'kai'